Maybe Garmin will invest more in a trainer to compete with the zwift trainer, rather than an updated Neo model. We may not see this in major price drops of current trainers, but if the Zwift model works well and sells well, I think we will see it changing how future trainers are designed/specified. (and this includes deliberately crippling the core in software). I could see Wahoo do something like drop the kickr core price, and possibly make more changes to differentiate the core vs the Kickr. Last updated: June 3rd, 2022 From unboxing to riding in less than five minutes, the Elite Suito Smart Trainer is one of a kind in the world of indoor direct drive trainers. I don’t think prices will drop to $500, but there will be conversations at other trainer companies if $1000ish (ie double the price) is a sustainable price. Whereas now on the Flux 2 you could do nearly 500w at 15KPH. So with the original Flux 1, you’d top out at 225w if doing 15KPH. This sets the ‘base price’ at $500, and now all these models need to justify their premium compared the the zwift trainer. The main difference aside from the obvious 16 grade simulation was actually more substantial, specifically they increased the working area at low-speed but steep climbing. If the zwift model works well, it seems to have features that would put in in this category, or at least very close. This had $900 as the ‘base price’ for mainstream top-end smart trainers. The above is what I would consider ‘mainstream’ tier 1 trainers. Everything else was not widely available, or had notable limitations/tradeoffs.Maybe Garmin will invest more in a trainer to compete with the zwift trainer, rather than an updated Neo model.My casual take on the landscape (USA centric) of smart trainers before the recent markdowns was: ![]() And I think that’s hitting a bit of the sweet spot. Instead, they launched the Suito this year at 799 with an included cassette. Elite dropped their price to 849, though I still don’t think that really does a ton. ![]() I could see Wahoo do something like drop the kickr core price, and possibly make more changes to differentiate the core vs the Kickr. In any case, that pretty much decimated the value prop for the Elite Direto at 899 or the Tacx Flux 2 at 899. This sets the ‘base price’ at $500, and now all these models need to justify their premium compared the the zwift trainer. But correct me if I read correctly into this. Honestly the new zwift trainer at 500 is likely to do the most regarding trainer resale values if it ends up being good. I don’t even think this will affect the resale of an H3 all that much. ![]() If the zwift model works well, it seems to have features that would put in in this category, or at least very close. I pulled the trigger on mine this morning as a ‘spare’, and then saw the ‘new saris coming’. ![]() My casual take on the landscape (USA centric) of smart trainers before the recent markdowns was:
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